About "Is Kirin 970 processor better than Xiaolong 835?" This question, Bian Xiao sorted out the user's answers from multiple channels, so that everyone can understand it more comprehensively.

1. The following opinions were praised by 53 people and had 23 exchanges and discussions:

In contrast, Qualcomm Xiaolong 835 is slightly behind Huawei Kirin 970 in baseband. Especially after adopting TSMC 10nm manufacturing process, the power consumption control will be better. Kirin 960 has strong performance and high power consumption after adopting a relatively "bold" configuration, and has been praised as "Fire Kirin" by some netizens. It is expected that after adopting TSMC's latest 10nm manufacturing process, Kirin 970 will have a better performance in power consumption control. According to the news released by MediaTek, the CPU is 4-core A35, 4-core A53 and dual-core A73, the GPU is Power VR 7 STP-MT4, and the manufacturing process is TSMC 10nm. However, as a mobile phone chip that wants to compete with Huawei Kirin 970 and Qualcomm Xiaolong 835, MediaTek X30 still can't catch up. Samsung's Exynos 8895 is a quad-core A53+ quad-core second-generation mongoose, its GPU is Mali-G7 1 MP20, and its manufacturing process is Samsung's 10nm FinFET process. Generally speaking, there is little direct competition among Kirin 970, Samsung Exynos 8895, Qualcomm Xiaolong 835 and MediaTek X30.

2. The following opinions were praised by 35 people and had 12 exchanges and discussions:

Two words: nonsense. Huawei has not learned well in recent years. It is good at cutting corners and boasting. It does not dare to compare the architecture performance improvement of CPU and GPU. Finally, we will "optimize" the AI module in the early research and development stage. After running a data, we will brag that we are ahead of Samsung, but Samsung can produce its own core components. Except for the communication baseband, CPU and GPU have not made substantial progress for a long time, and all of them directly apply the public version of arm, which is obviously different from the Apple Qualcomm chip that has been able to independently develop its architecture (Qualcomm Snapdragon 660th generation also started to use the self-developed architecture, and only the low-end chips of Xiaolong 630 and below use the public version of ARM architecture). After Kirin 9xx and 6xx, the compatibility problems left over from history were initially solved, and there is still a long way to go to catch up with Qualcomm. Generally speaking, there has been progress, but the gap is still very large.

3. The following views were praised by 26 people and discussed by 59 people:

Kirin 970 processor and Xiaolong 835 should be said to be top processors. Huawei's Hisilicon processor has achieved the rhythm of alternately leading with Qualcomm for half a year. In the first half of this year, Qualcomm released a new model, which surpassed the Kirin of the previous year. Compared with the previous generation Kirin 960' s 16nm process, TSMC 10 nm process has integrated 5.5 billion crystal tubes in a narrow volume of less than 100 mm, which is 1.77 times that of Xiaolong 835 and1(4.3 billion) of Apple. Considering the advantages of Kirin 970 transistor, Kirin 970 will be ahead of Xiaolong 835 in performance, and at the same time, because the main frequency is slightly lower, the heating and power consumption will also be reduced. As far as GPU is concerned, Kirin 970 continues Kirin 960' s "bold" strategy on GPU, and chooses MAli G72 of ARM to replace Mali G7 1 on Kirin 960, integrating 12 GPU cores at one go. According to Huawei's official statement, the GPU of Kirin 970 improves the graphics processing performance by 20% and the energy efficiency by 50% compared with the previous generation Kirin 960. In artificial intelligence, Kirin 970' s AI concept makes it like an intelligent brain. Compared with deep learning that needs to be uploaded to the cloud in the past, NPU can also realize real-time computer calculus, low-power AR and other functions. Now it is done directly on the mobile side, which can greatly improve the service efficiency. And does not rely on the network to protect users' privacy.

4. Wonderful answer:

Whether xx is better than xx depends on different people's habits and uses. As far as I know, the computing performance of Kirin 970cpu is equivalent to that of Qualcomm Xiaolong 835. 970gpu should be slightly weaker than 835, but it should be no problem to run large 3d games. When npu units are added, the energy efficiency ratio will be dominant; The real advantage of 970 (also perceived by users) is the combination of software and hardware. The hardware is developed by itself, and the software is deeply optimized based on Android. In terms of power consumption and performance, the camera should be better than most Android manufacturers. The network baseband is ahead of the 835th generation, and Qualcomm should reach the level of 845, so that 970 users can experience better in special environments such as network speed, network stability and high-speed rail. These two processors seem to have no obvious shortcomings.

5. Wonderful answer:

Which is better, Intel or amd? Each has its own advantages and needs diversified choices to avoid monopolizing the market. At present, the CPU performance of Android is excessive, and the key is optimization. Is there a difference between using an i7 to play Legend of the Sword and the Chivalrous Man and Celeron? Smartphones play with software instead of hardware!